AALEDF Interview with BD Wong (Audio)


When I saw that BD Wong was recently nominated for an Emmy, my first instinct was to offer congratulations. 

So I was surprised when I saw an Asian American group refrain from offering kudos and take the stand that only trans actors should get trans roles.

Sort of makes sense. Unless you've actually watched the show.

In Season 2 of "Mr. Robot," Wong plays "whiterose," the leader of a Chinese-based hacking organization known as the Dark Army. Talk about gender fluid, "whiterose" is often seen as a woman, but presents publicly as Minister Zhang, the male Chinese Minister of State Security. 

Are we talking trans man? Or a woman portraying a man? Or a trans woman? 

If you've watched "Mr.Robot," then you know such conundrums about reality and identity are part of the show's mysterious charm.

But on the trans issue, it appears to be pushing the debate on who gets to play whom in showbiz in a new direction.

Wong told me the role is a fantasy and not an "everyday trans role."

"The fantasy exists," Wong said on the AALDEF podcast, Emil Amok's Takeout. "I don't think the fantasy defames or devalues trans-ness, or I would not do [the role]."

It's true. It doesn't even move the needle on my personal cringeworthy test of inappropriate media portrayals, calibrated to the infamous "Mr. Yunioshi" played by  Mickey Rooney in "Breakfast at Tiffany's."

Still, Wong said he questioned whether to take the role, as he too felt that trans actors should play trans people.  

But he said he was swayed by the vision of the show's creator Sam Esmail, who seems to have created a totally ambiguous character who can be both politically correct and incorrect at the same time. 

Wong said when he signed on in season 2, he was left totally in the dark about the character. That means much of what we saw was Wong's imagination totally.

That alone suggests the Emmy-worthiness of his portrayal.

Personally, I'm sensitive to trans issues, having trans friends and trans family members. But I think if you binge watch Season 2 as I did on Amazon recently, you can still be for trans actors getting trans parts, and not have a problem with Wong as "whiterose." 

On the podcast, we also talk about how Wong came to acting while in high school, despite seeing few Asian faces in movies and TV. It's a lesson for a new generation of Asian Americans who have a yearning to be in the arts, but have parents who want them to be doctors or lawyers. Certainly, it's reminiscent of the message Alan Yang gave after winning an Emmy last year.

We also touch on the "Hawaii Five-0" story, and how BD is becoming an Oscar-voting member of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. He said progress is slowly being made in TV and the movies, and while change will never be to our satisfaction, it is coming.

That may accelerate as more Asian Americans take control of the stories they tell. I've always said it comes down to Asian Americans writing and developing their own projects, and Wong is no exception. Aside from his current key roles in "Mr.Robot," "Gotham," and another upcoming "Jurassic Park" sequel in 2018, Wong is developing a musical based on the movie, "Mr. Holland's Opus."

Listen to my conversation with BD Wong on the latest edition of Emil Amok's Takeout: